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From: John Falkenberg
Date: 10/18/98
[Editor's Note: This message was originally posted 18 May 1998 but was missing in action and is now back.]
To go from a "forum" of neutrality to a "forum" of intersubjectivity is an important step, which I welcome. Stolorow´s article of intersubjectivity on this webb is rather interesting. The most radical part is the line where he goes so far that he talks about a "no-person psychology". But why not? I have just begun to write an essay on the topic and will for the moment anyway work with it under the titel: "The myth of INTRAsubjectivity".
That is for sure not the usual ontological way to approach the relation in psychotherapy. But as far as I can see it is not illogical. Or is it?
There is a very interesting intersubjectivity thinker, a swedish writer and philosopher from the 1700th century, Geijer, who wrote: "You become an I first when you have contact with a You." And: "No You, no I". His work is described in a work by John Cullberg 1933,called "Das Du und die Wirklichkeit", or in english: "You and the reality".
However the concept of intersubjectivity (i-s) in the Stolorow way marks a radical shift in the ontological view and will provoke some reactions. Where i-s is quite another thing than two people having the same opinion of something - consensus.
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