Intersubjective Systems Forum, with Frames - Self Psychology Page

<body stylesrc="neutrality_toc.htm" background="images/paper4.gif" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">  <h1 align="center">Self Psychology Page<br> Intersubjective Systems Forum</h1> <p align="center"><a href="../forum.htm">Forum Central</a> | <a href="http://www.selfpsychology.com">Self Psychology Page</a></p> <p align="center"><img src="images/Elegant_Double.gif" width="536" height="5"></p> <blockquote> <p><strong>Welcome to the Intersubjective Systems Forum of the Self Psychology Page. This forum provides a focused discussion area for topics related to Intersubjective Systems Theory. </strong></p> <p><strong>There are three original, previously unpublished papers here to stimulate discussion. They are:</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="deconstructing.htm"><strong>Deconstructing the Myth of the Neutral Analyst: An Altervative from Intersubjective Systems Theory</strong></a><strong>, by by Robert D. Stolorow, Ph.D. (March 1997)</strong></li> <li><a href="thinking.htm"><strong>Thinking and Working Contextually: Toward a Philisophy of Psychoanalytic Practice</strong></a><strong>, by Robert D. Stolorow, Ph.D., Donna M. Orange, Ph.D., Psy.D., and George E. Atwood, Ph.D. (April 1998)</strong></li> <li><a href="evaluation.htm"><strong>Evaluation of Alan Strang By Martin Dysart</strong></a><strong>, by Stephanie A. Stolorow</strong></li> </ul> <p><strong>The discussion messages are below. You can Reply to messages while you are viewing them, or </strong><a href="neutrality_post.htm"><strong>Post</strong></a><strong> a new message on a new topic at any point. You can also </strong><a href="neutrality_srch.htm"><strong>Search</strong></a><strong> for keywords within the discussion.</strong></p> <p><strong>If you have questions or comments you can send an email to the Webmaster at </strong><a href="mailto:intersubjective@selfpsychology.org"><strong>intersubjective@selfpsychology.org</strong></a><strong>. </strong></p> </blockquote> <p align="center"><img src="images/Elegant_Double.gif" width="536" height="5"></p> <h3><tt>CONTENTS</tt></h3> <h5><em>Note: you may need to reload this page to see the most recent additions.</em></h5> <dl> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/00000062.htm" name="00000062">The antidote dimension</a></b><i> Albert Watts 7/29/2002</i></dt><dd><dl></dl></dd><dt><b><a href="_neutrality/00000061.htm" name="00000061">Change - unconscious organising principles becoming conscious</a></b><i> Albert Watts Melbourne Australia 5/2/2002</i></dt><dd><dl></dl></dd><dt><b><a href="_neutrality/00000060.htm" name="00000060">Unconscious organising principles becoming conscious</a></b><i> Albert Watts Melbourne Australia 5/1/2002</i></dt><dd><dl></dl></dd> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/0000005b.htm" name="0000005b">The " Frame" and Intersubjectivity</a></b><i> Albert Watts Melbourne Australia 10/17/00</i></dt> <dd> <dl> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/0000005c.htm" name="0000005c">Re: The " Frame" and Intersubjectivity</a></b><i> an intersubjectivist 10/31/00</i></dt> <dd> <dl> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/0000005d.htm" name="0000005d">Re: The " Frame" and Intersubjectivity</a></b><i> Albert Watts 12/4/00</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/0000005a.htm" name="0000005a">Stephanie Stolorow's paper on Equus</a></b><i> Mary Farrell 5/21/00</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/00000059.htm" name="00000059">Please forward to George Atwood</a></b><i> sgolding@xmission.com 5/18/00</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/00000058.htm" name="00000058">The use of regression in an intersubjective approach</a></b><i> Bruce Whealton, LCSW 3/23/00</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/00000056.htm" name="00000056">Neutrality</a></b><i> Altamirando Andrade(Brazil):altandr@ruralrj.com.br 2/4/00</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/00000055.htm" name="00000055">Kudos, Chris, I think.</a></b><i> Paul Arnett- Dialogical'Philosopher' 9/30/99</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/00000054.htm" name="00000054">Dialogical Philosophy and SelfObject Theory</a></b><i> Paul Arnett, Dialogical Philosoher 9/19/99</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/00000053.htm" name="00000053">For Falkenberg</a></b><i> Paul Arnett 8/12/99</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/00000052.htm" name="00000052">Contextualism</a></b><i> Dan Craig-Morse 6/23/99</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/00000051.htm" name="00000051">a replyto your comments on intersubjectivity of Derrida</a></b><i> bprasenjit@hotmail.com 5/31/99</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/0000004e.htm" NAME="0000004e">neurobiology</a></b><i> Dr. Ronaldo Victer E-mail: victer@ax.apc.org 3/28/99</i></dt> <dd><dl> </dl> </dd> </dt> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/0000004d.htm" NAME="0000004d">Personal experience and neurobiology--some consistencies with self psych and intersubjective perspectives</a></b><i> Howard S. Baker, M.D. 2/14/99</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000047.htm" NAME="00000047">Why not postmodernism ?</a></b><i> Christopher N. Heard, cheard@lanset.com 1/17/99</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000048.htm" NAME="00000048">Re: Why not postmodernism ?</a></b><i> Kyle Arnold 1/22/99</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/0000004a.htm" NAME="0000004a">Re: Why not postmodernism ?</a></b><i> Chgristopher Heard 1/24/99</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000049.htm" NAME="00000049">Re: Why not postmodernism ?</a></b><i> Chgristopher Heard 1/24/99</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/0000004b.htm" NAME="0000004b">Re: Why not postmodernism ?</a></b><i> Kyle Arnold 1/24/99</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/0000004c.htm" NAME="0000004c">Re: Why not postmodernism ?</a></b><i> Christopher Heard 1/24/99</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000045.htm" NAME="00000045">Why not intersubjectivity Kyle?</a></b><i> john.falkenber@swipnet.se 1/7/99</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000046.htm" NAME="00000046">Re: Why not intersubjectivity Kyle?</a></b><i> Kyle Arnold 1/8/99</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000041.htm" NAME="00000041">Decentering and Empathic Understanding</a></b><i> Joel A. Germond, Psy.D. 12/29/98</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000043.htm" NAME="00000043">Re: Decentering and Empathic Understanding</a></b><i> Kyle Arnold 1/2/99</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000044.htm" NAME="00000044">Re: Decentering and Empathic Understanding</a></b><i> Kyle Arnold 1/7/99</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000042.htm" NAME="00000042">Re: Decentering and Empathic Understanding</a></b><i> Glenn Groulx ggroulx@hotmail.com 1/1/99</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000040.htm" NAME="00000040">Intersubjectivity in Clinical Practice</a></b><i> Joel A. Germond, Psy.D. 12/29/98</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/0000003e.htm" NAME="0000003e">Field theories and intersubjectivity</a></b><i> iskender savasir 10/18/98</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/0000003d.htm" NAME="0000003d">Subjectivity and Scientific Inquiry</a></b><i> Giles Bixler 10/18/98</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/0000003c.htm" NAME="0000003c">Intrasubjectivity, a myth</a></b><i> John Falkenberg 10/18/98</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000039.htm" NAME="00000039">Intersubjectivity & Cultural Studies</a></b><i> Amanda Wise 9/3/98</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/0000003b.htm" NAME="0000003b">Re: Intersubjectivity & Cultural Studies</a></b><i> philemon@eden 9/11/98</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/0000003a.htm" NAME="0000003a">Re: Intersubjectivity & Cultural Studies</a></b><i> philemon@eden 9/11/98</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000038.htm" NAME="00000038">Physical Touch in Therapy</a></b><i> therapist@ozemail.com.au 8/31/98</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/00000057.htm" name="00000057">Re: Physical Touch in Therapy</a></b><i> ddstls@aol.com 3/16/00</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/0000004f.htm" NAME="0000004f">Re: Physical Touch in Therapy</a></b><i> Cheryl Amoruso cheamoruso@aol.com 4/2/99</i></dt> <dd><dl> </dl> </dd> </p> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000036.htm" NAME="00000036">Repentant</a></b><i> Curt Kearney (CF-Kearney@gosvt.edu) 8/3/98</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000035.htm" NAME="00000035">Off-the-cuff reactions to "Thinking and Working Contextually"</a></b><i> Curt Kearney (CF-Kearney@govst.edu) 7/25/98</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000034.htm" NAME="00000034">REPLY TO JULE P. MILLER III</a></b><i> Robert D. Stolorow, Ph.D. 7/3/98</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> </dl> <dl> <dt><a href="_neutrality/00000023.htm" name="00000023"><b>New Forum Name and Content</b></a><i> David Wolf, Webmaster 04 Apr 1998</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_neutrality/00000022.htm" name="00000022"><b>Neutrality</b></a><i> Daniel Gaynor, M.A., L.M.H.C. 02 Apr 1998</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_neutrality/00000021.htm" name="00000021"><b>Can we know what is going on in another person = Intersubjectivity?</b></a><i> John Falkenberg 30 Mar 1998</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_neutrality/0000001f.htm" name="0000001f"><b>The Myth of Neutrality</b></a><i> 17 Jan 1998</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_neutrality/0000001e.htm" name="0000001e"><b>The Myth of Neutrality</b></a><i> pamella@n5.com.jm 17 Jan 1998</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_neutrality/0000001d.htm" name="0000001d"><b>neutrality</b></a><i> 31 Oct 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_neutrality/0000001c.htm" name="0000001c"><b>the changing of one self</b></a><i> 24 Sep 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_neutrality/0000001a.htm" name="0000001a"><b>Suggestions or interpretations, a false dichotomy?</b></a><i> Per Ladegaard, Oslo, Norway 18 Sep 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_neutrality/0000000e.htm" name="0000000e"><b>Stolorow's Paper</b></a><i> Yavuz Erten, Istanbul - Turkey 09 Aug 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt> </dt> <dt><a href="_neutrality/00000010.htm" name="00000010"><b>Re: Stolorow's Paper</b></a><i> Mahboubeh 13 Sep 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt> </dt> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/00000024.htm" name="00000024">Re: Stolorow's Paper and minorities, immigrants etc.</a></b><i> iskender savasir 11 Apr 1998</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_neutrality/0000001b.htm" name="0000001b"><b>Re: Stolorow's Paper</b></a><i> Yavuz Erten - yerten@escortnet.com 21 Sep 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000050.htm" NAME="00000050">Re: Stolorow's Paper</a></b><i> dlkola 5/8/99</i></dt> <dd><dl> </dl> </dd> </dt> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_neutrality/0000000d.htm" name="0000000d"><b>Intersubjectivity & Derrida</b></a><i> John L Butters, Sydney, Aust 27 Jul 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> <dt><a href="_neutrality/0000000f.htm" name="0000000f"><b>Re: Intersubjectivity & Derrida</b></a><i> iskender savasir 02 Sep 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt> </dt> <dt><a href="_neutrality/00000020.htm" name="00000020"><b>Re: Intersubjectivity & Derrida</b></a><i> Roger Cutting 24 Jan 1998</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_neutrality/0000000a.htm" name="0000000a"><b>Stolorow's Myths</b></a><i> Jule P. Miller III 22 Apr 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt> </dt> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000037.htm" NAME="00000037">Re: Stolorow's Myths</a></b><i> Christopher N. Heard J.D., Ph.D. 8/28/98</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_neutrality/0000000c.htm" name="0000000c"><b>Re: Stolorow's Myths</b></a><i> Howard S. Baker, M.D. 25 May 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_neutrality/0000000b.htm" name="0000000b"><b>Re: Stolorow's Myths</b></a><i> William J. Coburn 06 May 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt> </dt> <dt><b><a HREF="_neutrality/00000033.htm" NAME="00000033">Re: Stolorow's Myths</a></b><i> Giles Bixler, MA, RCC., Victoria, BC 5/23/98</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_neutrality/00000005.htm" name="00000005"><b>Neutrality</b></a><i> Albert Watts Melbourne 16 Mar 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_neutrality/00000003.htm" name="00000003"><b>Mythology</b></a><i> Sam Kent (samkent@vivanet.com) 16 Mar 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_neutrality/00000002.htm" name="00000002"><b>Welcome to the Analytic Neutrality Discussion Forum</b></a><i> David Wolf, Webmaster 08 Mar 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt> </dt> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/00000007.htm" name="00000007">Re: Welcome to the Analytic Neutrality Discussion Forum</a></b><i> brad johns m.d. 28 Mar 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> <dt><a href="_neutrality/00000008.htm" name="00000008"><b>Re: Welcome to the Analytic Neutrality Discussion Forum</b></a><i> BRAD JOHNS M.D. 28 Mar 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/0000005f.htm" name="0000005f">Re: The use of regression in an intersubjective approach</a></b><i> Bruce Whealton's License to Practice as a Therapist has been Revoked. 12/20/2001</i></dt><dd><dl></dl></dd> </html> <dt><b><a href="_neutrality/0000006d.htm" name="0000006d">touch in psychotherapy</a></b><i> jif319@earthlink.net 8/4/2004</i></dt><dd><dl><dt><b><a href="_neutrality/00000072.htm" name="00000072">Re: touch in psychotherapy</a></b><i> kim.1@bigpond.com 10/27/2004</i></dt><dd><dl></dl></dd><dt><b><a href="_neutrality/0000006f.htm" name="0000006f">Re: touch in psychotherapy</a></b><i> turtlehugdrummer@yahoo.com 9/17/2004</i></dt><dd><dl></dl></dd></dl></dd> <hr> <h5>Last changed: August 30, 2005 </h5>  </body>