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<body stylesrc="disruption_toc.htm" background="../paper4.gif" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">  <h1 align="center">Disruption-Restoration Forum</h1> <p align="center"><a href="../forum.htm" target="_top">Forum Central</a> | <a target="_top" href="http://www.selfpsychology.com">Self Psychology Page</a></p> <hr> <h4 align="left"><font size="4"><strong>Ernest Wolf</strong> </font>writes:</h4> <h4 align="left">The time may be right for a discussion of the most useful conceptualization of the dynamics of strengthening the self in the course of the therapeutic process. As is well known Kohut proposed a conceptualization based on optimal frustration in association with transmuting internalization. I have always found this conceptualization somewhat awkward. It leans heavily on Freud's model for mourning where the lost object is brought into conscious contemplation and then internalized as an accretion to the ego. I have suggested an alternate dynamic in elaborating on the disruption-restoration sequence. The disruption precipitates a disorganization-regression that tears the self apart into its constituents. (Disrupted individuals often talk about having fallen apart). Metaphorically one can visualize the disrupted fragmented self in a dynamic state where the previously cohesive constituents are now relatively freely movable. (I know we are not talking about real structures but about experiences that are lasting long enough to be referred to as "psychic structures") When the self first became cohesive it configured itself in adaptation to the prevailing childhood environment and its' selfobjects. The same can now happen with the constituents of the disrupted self. It can re-arrange itself into a new cohesive configuration in adaptation to the treatment situation and the selfobject-analyst. Hopefully this readapted self will also be more fitting into the extra-analytic environment which is equivalent to saying the self has been strengthened by re-arrangement of its constituent selfobject experiences. Any comments or discussion?</h4> <p align="center"><a href="../forum.htm" target="_top">Forum Central</a> | <a href="disruption_srch.htm" target="_top">Search Forum</a> | <a href="../" target="_top">Self Psychology Page</a> | <a href="disruption_post.htm" target="_top">Post Message</a></p> <hr> <h3><tt>CONTENTS</tt></h3> <h5><em>Note: you may need to reload this page to see the most recent additions.</em></h5> <dl> <dd> <dt><b><a href="_disruption/0000003a.htm" name="0000003a">Disruption-Restoration Forum</a></b><i> Margaret 8/11/2001</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a href="_disruption/00000036.htm" name="00000036">Narcissistic disorders</a></b><i> Ana Rush 4/30/00</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a href="_disruption/00000032.htm" name="00000032">Dialogical Philosophy and Selfobject Psychology</a></b><i> Paul Arnett, Dialogical Philosopher 9/19/99</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a href="_disruption/0000002f.htm" name="0000002f">checking it out</a></b><i> L.A. Lyle 8/27/99</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> <dt><b><a href="_disruption/0000002e.htm" name="0000002e">Narcissism as a Function of Culture</a></b><i> Simon Sobo, M.D. 7/18/99</i></dt> <dd> <dl> <li></dt> </li>  </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000021.htm" name="00000021"><b>What Is Valuable in Self Psychology and What Isn't? One Analyst's Opinions.</b></a><i> Donald L. Carveth, Ph.D. 28 Dec 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/0000001e.htm" name="0000001e"><b>disruption-restoration forum</b></a><i> eva fisher-bloom (evaf@usa.net 27 Jul 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt> <dt><b><a href="_disruption/00000039.htm" name="00000039">Re: disruption-restoration forum</a></b><i> syoung8296@aol.com 7/24/2001</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/0000001f.htm" name="0000001f"><b>Re: disruption-restoration forum:Eva Fisher-Bloom</b></a><i> Ernest Wolf 13 Aug 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000018.htm" name="00000018"><b>Traumatic Failure</b></a><i> Michael Wetter 04 Jul 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> <dt><a href="_disruption/0000001a.htm" name="0000001a"><b>Re: Traumatic Failure</b></a><i> Paula Fuqua 07 Jul 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000014.htm" name="00000014"><b>Transmuting Internalization</b></a><i> Ernest Wolf 19 Jun 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt> </dt> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000015.htm" name="00000015"><b>Re: Transmuting Internalization</b></a><i> Jean Fitzpatrick 23 Jun 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000016.htm" name="00000016"><b>Re: Transmuting Internalization</b></a><i> Ernest Wolf 24 Jun 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000017.htm" name="00000017"><b>Re: Transmuting Internalization</b></a><i> Jean Fitzpatrick 29 Jun 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000019.htm" name="00000019"><b>Re: Transmuting Internalization</b></a><i> Ernest Wolf 05 Jul 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> <dt><a href="_disruption/0000001b.htm" name="0000001b"><b>Re: Transmuting Internalization</b></a><i> Jean Fitzpatrick 08 Jul 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000013.htm" name="00000013"><b>vertical-horizontal</b></a><i> Kim Richardson (kim@iafrica.com) 11 Jun 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000012.htm" name="00000012"><b>Horizontal vs. Vertical</b></a><i> Michael Wetter 10 Jun 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt> </dt> <dt><b><a href="_disruption/00000024.htm" name="00000024">Re: Horizontal vs. Vertical</a></b><i> Katrina Lane LMFT LPC 22 Feb 1998</i></dt> <dd><dl> <p></p> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000011.htm" name="00000011"><b>The Long View</b></a><i> Jean Fitzpatrick 28 May 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000010.htm" name="00000010"><b>Transmuting internalization--is this a good term?</b></a><i> Howard S. Baker, M.D. 25 May 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/0000000e.htm" name="0000000e"><b>The role of Clarrification</b></a><i> Michael Wetter 23 May 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/0000000c.htm" name="0000000c"><b>The Fragmented Self</b></a><i> Michael Wetter (mwetter@pacificnet.net) 18 May 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt> <dt><b><a href="_disruption/00000033.htm" name="00000033">Re: The Fragmented Self</a></b><i> parnet 9/22/99</i></dt> <dd> <dl> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/0000000f.htm" name="0000000f"><b>Re: The Fragmented Self</b></a><i> Howard S. Baker, M.D. 25 May 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/0000000d.htm" name="0000000d"><b>Re: The Fragmented Self</b></a><i> Jean Fitzpatrick 18 May 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/0000000b.htm" name="0000000b"><b>empathic failure</b></a><i> Jean Fitzpatrick 07 May 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/0000000a.htm" name="0000000a"><b>Self Expression and Disruption-Restoration</b></a><i> Ernest Wolf 28 Apr 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000009.htm" name="00000009"><b>optimal frustration</b></a><i> Jule P. Miller III 20 Apr 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000004.htm" name="00000004"><b>Optimal Frustration</b></a><i> Albert Watts 16 Mar 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000005.htm" name="00000005"><b>Re: Optimal Frustration</b></a><i> Ernest Wolf 19 Mar 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> </dt> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000007.htm" name="00000007"><b>Re: Optimal Frustration</b></a><i> Howard Baker 20 Mar 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000002.htm" name="00000002"><b>DID and Self</b></a><i> D Rose 14 Mar 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000008.htm" name="00000008"><b>Re: DID and Self</b></a><i> Howard Baker 24 Mar 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000006.htm" name="00000006"><b>Re: DID and Self</b></a><i> Ernest Wolf 19 Mar 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000003.htm" name="00000003"><b>Re: DID and Self</b></a><i> Sam Kent (samkent@vivanet.com) 16 Mar 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> <dt></dt> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dt><a href="_disruption/00000001.htm" name="00000001"><b>Welcome to the Disruption-Restoration Discussion</b></a><i> David Wolf, Webmaster 12 Mar 1997</i></dt> <dd><dl> </dl> </dd> </dl> </html> <hr width="50%"> <h5>Last changed: December 08, 2004 </h5> <hr> <p align="center"><a href="../forum.htm" target="_top">Forum Central</a> | <a href="disruption_srch.htm" target="_top">Search Forum</a> | <a target="_top" href="http://www.selfpsychology.com">Self Psychology Page</a> | <a href="disruption_post.htm" target="_top">Post Message</a></p> <p> </p>  </body>